Comments on: Exchange Onlineā€™s New High Volume Email (HVE) Solution https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/ Practical Office 365 News, Tips, and Tutorials Wed, 07 Aug 2024 20:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: <div class="apbct-real-user-wrapper"> <div class="apbct-real-user-author-name">Tony Redmond</div> <div class="apbct-real-user-badge" onmouseover=" let popup = document.getElementById('apbct_trp_comment_id_297670'); popup.style.display = 'inline-flex'; "> <div class="apbct-real-user-popup" id="apbct_trp_comment_id_297670"> <div class="apbct-real-user-title"> <p class="apbct-real-user-popup-header">The Real Person!</p> <p class="apbct-real-user-popup-text">Author <b>Tony Redmond</b> acts as a real person and passed all tests against spambots. Anti-Spam by CleanTalk.</p> </div> </div> </div> </div> https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297670 Wed, 07 Aug 2024 20:51:00 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297670 In reply to M.

HVE is mainly for internal messaging. It has some external capability but that’s not what it is designed for. If you want a service to handle things like sending newsletters out to customers, investigate ECS https://practical365.com/ecs-email-communication-services/

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By: M https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297669 Wed, 07 Aug 2024 20:45:21 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297669 In reply to Tony Redmond.

Ok not great, using it like you are through powershell is fine, but I know our network team has firewall alerts fire off mostly internal but to maybe 10 or 11 external isp emails.

To me that falls in the category of what HVE is used for, but then were already over the limit. I dont know how they decided on this. Pretty sure when I asked on the microsoft page they said they have no plans to change this in the general release.

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By: Tony Redmond https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297668 Wed, 07 Aug 2024 20:39:07 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297668 In reply to Montell.

You can’t send to more than 10 external recipients per minute. But wait until the software is GA to see what limits Microsoft sets at that point. I will say that I did not find the limitation to be a problem because I built the necessary pauses into PowerShell scripts to send messages. Each external recipient counts as 1 recipient, so sending one email to 200 recipients is sending to 200 recipients.

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By: Montell https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297663 Wed, 07 Aug 2024 19:43:36 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297663 Just a quick question again on the 10 external user limit per minute. If you send 1 email to 200 users I assume thats fine?

You just cant send more than 10 different external emails in under a minute?

I just want to confirm that as the rest of our staff has now asked about this. We have a very small need as a post secondary to send some external mail using a smtp relay (currently uses office 365 which will be depreciated). Most is internal and in a few years it will be almost 100% internal. But we just want to understand the exact limitation so hopefully my understanding above is correct.

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By: <div class="apbct-real-user-wrapper"> <div class="apbct-real-user-author-name">Tony Redmond</div> <div class="apbct-real-user-badge" onmouseover=" let popup = document.getElementById('apbct_trp_comment_id_297451'); popup.style.display = 'inline-flex'; "> <div class="apbct-real-user-popup" id="apbct_trp_comment_id_297451"> <div class="apbct-real-user-title"> <p class="apbct-real-user-popup-header">The Real Person!</p> <p class="apbct-real-user-popup-text">Author <b>Tony Redmond</b> acts as a real person and passed all tests against spambots. Anti-Spam by CleanTalk.</p> </div> </div> </div> </div> https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297451 Wed, 31 Jul 2024 16:06:56 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297451 In reply to Mark Spoonman.

You’ll have to wait for GA. I don’t work for Microsoft, so I can’t commit to anything on their behalf.

CA requires an app identity to apply restrictions. Maybe this will come through modern authentication for SMTP connections to HVE.

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By: Mark Spoonman https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297450 Wed, 31 Jul 2024 16:00:57 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297450 In reply to Tony Redmond.

As far as i understood from first community feedback there ist currently no possibility to restrict the usage /login of HVE Accounts to trusted IPs via Conditional Access. We implemented those restrictions for our decentralized printer locations (scan2email) for the SMTP Client Auth submission (Basic Auth) method. Any info on this topic would be appreciated. Maybe we will have more info on GA.

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By: <div class="apbct-real-user-wrapper"> <div class="apbct-real-user-author-name">Tony Redmond</div> <div class="apbct-real-user-badge" onmouseover=" let popup = document.getElementById('apbct_trp_comment_id_297433'); popup.style.display = 'inline-flex'; "> <div class="apbct-real-user-popup" id="apbct_trp_comment_id_297433"> <div class="apbct-real-user-title"> <p class="apbct-real-user-popup-header">The Real Person!</p> <p class="apbct-real-user-popup-text">Author <b>Tony Redmond</b> acts as a real person and passed all tests against spambots. Anti-Spam by CleanTalk.</p> </div> </div> </div> </div> https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297433 Tue, 30 Jul 2024 23:32:43 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297433 In reply to Montell.

The limitations will be different when HVE is GA. Don’t judge HVE capacity to send email based on the preview.

HVE accounts and passwords are like other Entra ID accounts. It’s up to you how to maintain/expire passwords.

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By: Montell https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297432 Tue, 30 Jul 2024 23:30:05 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297432 In reply to Tony Redmond.

For sure we don’t send a lot external but some get fired off to external addresses, the scary thing though is 10 messages per minute, hopefully the odd application we house does not exceed this, most is for internal I just can’t say there’s for sure a scenario where it might not exceed it. Wonder why this was not documented the only thing mentioned is 2000 per day.

Also do you know if hve accounts passwords will expire?

I was hoping this was a solution to some of our programs using office 365 smtp basic auth but seems there’s some real limitations.

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By: Tony Redmond https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297430 Tue, 30 Jul 2024 22:30:10 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297430 In reply to Montell.

It’s a preview, so some artificial limitations exist in the current impleementation. Also, HVE is intended more for internal than external communications. There is no rate limit for internal email, and the limit for external email emphasizes the target HVE is intended to serve.

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By: <div class="apbct-real-user-wrapper"> <div class="apbct-real-user-author-name">Tony Redmond</div> <div class="apbct-real-user-badge" onmouseover=" let popup = document.getElementById('apbct_trp_comment_id_297429'); popup.style.display = 'inline-flex'; "> <div class="apbct-real-user-popup" id="apbct_trp_comment_id_297429"> <div class="apbct-real-user-title"> <p class="apbct-real-user-popup-header">The Real Person!</p> <p class="apbct-real-user-popup-text">Author <b>Tony Redmond</b> acts as a real person and passed all tests against spambots. Anti-Spam by CleanTalk.</p> </div> </div> </div> </div> https://practical365.com/exchange-online-hve/#comment-297429 Tue, 30 Jul 2024 22:28:38 +0000 https://practical365.com/?p=61252#comment-297429 In reply to Montell.

Yes. in Powershell, it’s the Start-Sleep cmdlet. See the example script referenced in the article.

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